Moderna CEO in 2019: “Going to be a pandemic next year”?

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What did he say? It sounds like Moderna’s CEO said that when the pandemic happened in 2019, they made 100,000 doses that year, and then that: we need to make a billion doses next year because “there’s going to be a pandemic”. Did I hear that right?

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  1. Stéphane Bancel, CEO: Moderna (also spelled as Stefan Bensel sometimes, even on WEF website)
  2. Seth Berkley, CEO: Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance (GAVI = Gates)
  3. Maria Leptin, President of the European Research Council
  4. Michelle Williams, the Dean of Faculty, Harvard Chan School of Public Health (built from Rockefeller Foundation)

This is what I heard, what do you hear?

When the pandemic happened, Moderna made 100,000 dose in 2019 for a whole year. I remember walking after the office of my other manufacturing and I said, “How we make a billion dose next year?” And he look at me a bit funny, and say, “What?” I said, “Yeah, we need to make a billion doses next year, there’s going to be a pandemic.” — Stéphane Bancel, CEO: Moderna

They don’t hide it. You’re just not paying attention.

Timestamp: 00:21

… The best thing we can do is use the preventing methods, but also make sure we vaccinate our high-risk populations, so they’re protected against severe disease and death.

(Wearing his “SDG“)

Seth Berkley, CEO: Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance

Timestamp: 00:32

Let’s go more a little bit into the new variants and sub variants, and I’m going to go with the Stephane Bancel. Let’s talk about vaccine development, because we’ve heard how it happened, obviously, with COVID-19 starting from 2022, and how extraordinary the process was also in terms of the speed. How is development adoption and scaling of vaccine going on when it comes to different variants and sub variants? Because this is one of the big concerns as we’re all here now, and we’re discussing, we understand the context, and this is a great deal.

Timestamp: 01:01

Sure, a good morning, and thank you for having me on the panel. So the great news versus 2020, where we are today is we have manufacturing capacity.

As Seth knows, when the pandemic happened, Moderna had made 100,000 doses in 2019 for the whole year, and I remember walking after that, I was into the office of my other manufacturing, and I said, how would make a billion doses next year? And he looked at me a bit funny, say what? I said, we need to make a billion doses next year, there’s going to be a pandemic, and so we are now, we have plants in the US, and in Switzerland.

We’ve shown this Summer, that we’re able to adapt to variants very quickly. If you think about it, in the US, Peter Marx, told us on June 28, we want for the US, a bivalent Omicron booster, and by early September on Labor Day Weekend, it was in US pharmacies, which, kind of, 60 days, which kind of, in the old world of vaccines will of been…

Five years. —Gavi

Yeah, I’m thinking about, and I was just telling Seth before this discussion that I’m very excited about Christmas, Moderna bought a Japanese company that has developed a new technology, a new $cience from Tokyo University, to shrink by two more weeks. The time to get from deciding the sequence, to having products ready. So it will not be ready for this summer for the booster that we’re going to need in the fall of 23, but potentially by the fall of 24, you might be ready, and so we keep on working on technologies to improve that. (01)

Stéphane Bancel, CEO: Moderna

The other piece that we are working on also, because Seth and I had many, many discussions over the last three years, as you can imagine, is how do we build manufacturing capacity around the world? We had a lot of export restriction during the pandemic, which was really, really painful for obvious reasons. Even from countries who say we will not limit export, trust me, they were, and so we are very excited now that we are building a factory in Canada. (02) We already brought ground in the Fall. We are building a factory in Australia. (announced at Melbourne’s Centre for “Nanofabrication) (03) (04) We are going to start the factory in the UK, (05) (06) and we’re also going to start building a factory in Kenya. (07)

Stéphane Bancel, CEO: Moderna

They’re not hiding it. You’re just not paying attention.

Note: This is Greg Hunt (with former Australian PM Scott Morrison in the background). Greg Hunt was the World Economic Forum’s “Director of Strategy” in Geneva, Switzerland (2000-2001), named Global Leader for Tomorrow (2003), and named Best Minister in the World at the World Government Summit (2016). He trained at Klaus Schwab’s school for young global leaders and was Australia’s Federal Health Minister during Covid – the Biosecurity Act gave him authority over Australia’s strategy in March 2020. He’s also featured in my “Conflict$ in Australia” posts. (08) (09) (10) (11)

He gets to retire with his big fat yellow envelope and enjoy his young family for the rest of their lives; whilst others lost their kids, parents, friends, jobs, lives, homes, or health to covid-vax-madne$$ / covid-ho$pital-protocol$ / the censoring of logical health advice, or lost their minds or common sense to covid-hysteria from the military-grade mind-control that played 24/7 on the tell-lie-vision, in social media, and in any business they didn’t destroy. (12)

He was featured in a photo with Schwab’s book “The Great Reset” and a clip of his video went viral around the world for announcing “The world is engaged in the largest clinical trial, the largest global vaccination trial ever.”:

If you don’t find it at least QUESTIONABLE that Moderna will be producing “mRNA vaccines” in Australia, announced by the PM & fmr WEF Director of Strategy, at Melbourne’s “Centre for NanoFabrication“, after EVERYTHING we’ve found out so far about what’s in the vials, and the larger global agenda, which has the synthetic biology crap weaved in, then I don’t know what else to say. I really don’t know what else to say.

So what does the Centre for Nanofabrication do anyway?

Same name keeps appearing in the papers, the Director, Professor Nicolas Voelcker.

He received over $3 million dollars in 2022 to develop ‘Wearable and Implantable Biosensors” (an apparent $150 billion market), who is also a Professor, and “CSIRO Science Leader”. (49) (50) (51) (52) (53)

They’ve developed one of those Bill Gates investments, the microneedle patch…and this is even more relevant for something I’m still researching), and that is the pH level monitoring aspect of their invention. (54) (55)

It’s relevant because we found on the Obama Whitehouse archives (2010), an intelligent (self-aware) sensor, that is a multi-functional, self-assembling nano-sized protein, found in every cell of the human body, that can be controlled by pH.

Another thing to be paid for by us, funded to military, defence and big-pharma, and sold to the public as something to “keep us safe”, “save lives” from the “other” boogie-man (not them of course, they would never hurt you)… “100,000,000,000% safe and effective, safe and effective, we’re here to help you, rah rah rah.”

Especially ignore the fact that it’s parent company (ExQori) creates Internet of Things self-aware quantum technology that “unifies nanotechnology, biotechnology, IT, and Cognitive science”. “Transforming All Into One” which claims to combine to a self-aware cognitive cloud, that connects providers, industry, science, financial, medical, patient, and government data into an apparent “non-AI”, “globally unified, cognitive cloud”, and remotely and intelligently monitor’s medical conditions and drug “compliance”, as well as suggested “dosing adjustments”.

We are talking to a couple more countries, because I would really like on every continent to have mRNA capacity, because amazing thing about mRNA is you can use the same facility, the same plant, the same machines to make any vaccine you want. For example, in our last night, we announced we have positive data on our RSV vaccine for phase three, with a very high 84% significant efficacy on the vaccine. As many of you know, there is no vaccine against RSV, and too many people get sick and die every year of RSV. Both in the elderly and also it’s a big problem for toddlers, and so we can use exactly the same machines in the same plant to make the other vaccines. So the flexibility is what I think also give me hopes, not only for the variants, that “nature” might throw at us, but also for other vaccines.

Stéphane Bancel, CEO: Moderna

(RSV = they are coming for your Kids next time)

Timestamp: 04:02

Well, it’s interesting how you say that three years ago, some of these speed and some of those days, and how you say this, and now we can speed it up even more. Something like that was not even possible or thinkable to be discussed three years ago, even when we went into COVID, right? But Maria Leptin, I want to bring it to a little bit of a different aspect with you here, because COVID-19 pandemic illustrated also the difficulties and the risks of $cience denial, and three years into it, we’re still having lots of that, and this is such an important issue here. The highlighted importance of $cience, and I know you’re passionate about that. How do you see the situation now, has it improved or not?

Timestamp: 04:43

I wish it had improved. I am passionate about $cience, and it’s an interesting question. Perhaps interestingly, to the countries which were most successful in getting good coverage of vaccination, based this, not at all, on getting their citizens to try and understand the $cience.

One is Bhutan, which, where they were very successful in preparing a campaign, and involved—they asked, they were sensitive to the country’s needs, to the citizen’s needs—involved in forming the religious establishment, and in fact using them in finding the right time and date, and they got fantastic coverage. No $cience was explained.

Maria Leptin, President of the European Research Council

Oh my god, Bhutan used Astrology

…because the country was full of “vaccine hesitancy”… (57)

Oh, there you go…

their leaders are sell-outs too…

They are using the pandemic as an “opportunity to Reset ourselves“… will ‘bring in “Digital ID” as a build-up to a “Big Data system”, have a complete “Education Reform”, have an “Integrated Taxation System”, and their Central bank is piloting Digital Currency.

Bhutan on its Progress to ‘Reset’ their Country

  • Lotay Tshering, Prime Minister, Kingdom of Bhutan, addresses the general debate of the 76th Session of the General Assembly of the United Nations (New York, 21-27 September 2021).
  • (At least their citizens get a heads-up I guess… most Aussies don’t even know this is happening)

The other example I know of is Portugal, where the campaign was handed to retired army general, and the army general just treated the country as his troops, and he rallied the troops. He declared it as a war that the country in patriotic passion was going to fight together, and they had up there—I think they were leading in Europe, if not the world.

So, no $cience. Let’s remember that. Good planning, good thinking and integration. One country and the right sort of attitude and another.

Maria Leptin, President of the European Research Council

WTF that sounds F*KN INSANE?!?

More-so… here’s the aftermath of your “Fake-Funded-Science: WAR on Humanity”

According to Statista, Portugal has the highest vaccination rate of any country in Europe aside from the tiny island of Malta. 70% have received boosters. (58)

The New York Times ran an article about Portugal the previous year: “there is no one left to vaccinate”. (59)

Yet, Portugal now has the highest case rate and COVID death rate per capita in Europe and the second highest COVID fatality rate in the world behind Taiwan, according to Our World in Data. (60)

Portugal —
2nd highest “Covid” Deaths…
highest “Covid” “Cases”

  • Video (Mark Steyn on Portugal)
  • Telegram (1 min Clip)

Mark Steyn: “So, look here: the least vaccinated country in Europe is Bulgaria, which also has the lowest excess mortality … mhhh … and the most vaccinated country in Europe is Malta, which is not included in the excess mortality statistics. So let’s move on to the second most vaccinated country in Europe: Portugal. And there is the highest excess mortality. So the country with the lowest vaccination rate has the most low excess mortality, while the country with the highest vaccination rate has the highest excess mortality. All together now: “Correlation… is not Causation”.


“In June, Portugal recorded the highest excess mortality in Europe of 23.9% vs a European average of 6.7%. New Zealand is similar, with 5-10% excess mortality depending on the demographic. Vaccine advocates will immediate say “correlation isn’t causation” yet they used such argumentation to claim the unvaccinated were dying at higher rates. The truth is the unvaccinated have largely come through better, whilst things are looking bleak for the vaccinated who seem to be suffering from an array of acute and long term problems, ranging from skin infections and lingering coughs to myocarditis and strokes.”

Back to “$cience”; or rather the true “Science-Deniers”…

Scientists, we $cientists, and I’m totally behind the scientists who were asked constantly at the beginning of the campaign, we did what $cientists do. We expressed our knowledge and our uncertainty. I mean, the spoof on this and “Don’t Look Up,” was wonderful.

(Oh my God, she’s praising “Don’t Look Up”)

93% certain, means 7% possible that the comet won’t… why should we worry? (UMM… but your 90% statistic was a lie from the start and got worse and worse as the data came in… so what is wrong with you? It is NOT a good comparison—you are delusional and dangerous, and blinded by either an agenda or dollar signs.) And so I don’t blame any of the $cientists in my own country, Germany, nor Fauci (Fraud-chi) in America, or any other scientist who pronounced publicly. The trouble is that many citizens don’t understand uncertainty as part of the scientific method, and if I say today, “This is my best belief with that uncertainty,” and somebody else says tomorrow, “You didn’t do that experiment right… you didn’t…” That’s the way we are. So we’ve got to go so profoundly into educating citizens about the scientific method if we want better trust in $cience, and the bad news is, who is it going to be? It’s not going to be us (DAMN STRAIGHT!—you genocidal maniac!) because we’re the ones who are mistrusted. I’m now a Brussels $cientific official. You represent academia, can never trust them. Industry even worse. I mean, Seth is the only one who can be halfway trusted (HELL. NO!).

So what I’m saying is, if we want to address those who don’t, who have this mistrust in $cience, we’re the wrong ones and we’ve got to start somewhere completely else.

Maria Leptin, President of the European Research Council

(You and your vaccine-$ales-people will NEVER regain our trust—NEVER.)

But let’s expand this. It’s such an important issue when it comes to the distrust in $cience, and I want to address all the speakers here. If that’s not up to you, who can do that better? And how can we make this more of an organized way to get better result at the end?

Let me start because I think it’s really important. The worst thing we did in the US was, when people expressed hesitancy or curiosity, we basically said to them, “Follow the $cience,” and that’s the absolute wrong thing to do. (Especially when the “Science” wasn’t supporting your fake-narrative, but do go on…) What you have to do, if you’re really interested in communicating, information that will motivate people to change their behaviour, you have to take the approach of meeting them where they are, explaining it, and presenting the information in a way where they will adopt the desirable behaviour and feel good about it, and maybe that was the secret sauce to what happened in Portugal (err… treating it like a military war, and putting them in the second-highest death and highest-sickness category?? that’s your “secret sauce?”) and in Bhutan (errrr……..making sure the planets are aligned & going all-in on a totalitarian digital reset??).

Health communicators (Military = “Health Communicators?”) and scientists worked to communicate the risks and what we understand today, and in doing that, helped people understand that the scientific process is iterative, and not all of us are math literates. So when we speak in probability, we are going to lose our audience. So all of us have to begin to realize that we have to stop our professional scientific speak or engage others who can translate for us and meet people where they are. (Guys, I think they’re going to remove the statistics next time, so we can’t find out / prove they are killing us). If we do that, it’ll be the stepping stone of building trust. Governance, regulation and governance and national leadership really did not help us.

Michelle Williams, the Dean of Faculty, Harvard Chan School of Public Health

But it also was, I mean, if you look at vaccine hesitancy in a normal time frame, people think this is a problem in the developing world. It tended not to be a problem in the developing world because you look to your friends and colleagues and you see the diseases, and so every parent, every person wants the protection. (You mean, countries where their nutrition is killing their health vs countries who have better nutrition… of course, that is what you would mean if you weren’t trying to make billion$ on vaccines…) The big problem was in places where vaccines were so effective that the diseases had disappeared, and then you can say, well, do I want to take this vaccine that has a side effect or is it organic or does it have this or that? And that was where we were. That was so interesting.

What you didn’t mention was the intentionality, the politicization of the process. There was also attacks that were done. There were bots in social media that were putting out misinformation on both sides, and lastly, and this is what’s completely different, is today, a rumour spreads literally at the speed of light. So what happens is you have in my own country, Michelle is talking about the US. I’m obviously American, although I live in Switzerland. It was amazing the amount of misinformation that was there, and that information then went straight to the rest of the world, and so all of a sudden you have the way we normally deal with misinformation (You mean “Inconvenient, Unprofitable Truths?”) is we get the local chief, the local religious leader, the local healthcare workers who are trusted, but all of a sudden they’re like, but look at what’s going on in Germany or in the US or in other places and here’s what I’m getting in my social media, and that has been a real problem. So the trust goes even broader. We don’t trust the institutions, we have misinformation, and it’s getting worse, not better.

Seth Berkley, CEO: Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance

(Because we’re onto you now, we trusted you before, we were naïve to the extent of evil in this world, but evil locked us in our homes with nothing but the internet, and instead of playing games and watching Netflix, some of us figured you out!)

The extent of this misinformation (truth) when it comes to vaccination I think has as somebody who works in the media. I mean, that was just overwhelming to see all of that across all the channels, right?

Yes, and I exactly agree with panellists, which is I think in some countries, you know, also scientific debate in national TV at prime time. So you can imagine that people were scared. You know, (inaudible) said a lot of political debate in some countries and the US was kind of maybe one of the worst places in the world, and you saw the differences of countries where all the parties would say, you know, this had been approved by the regulators, clinical studies have been done, you should get your vaccines and so on, and as Seth said, I mean, the social media was just terrible. Just terrible. So at the time of uncertainty where people were scared for their loved ones, you know, many people, you know, locked down. It was very hard for everybody from just a mental health standpoint. When you, you capitalize with all that environment, you could see some countries where you had scientific debate and political debate, and social media, if you have those three things, they have a vaccine rate, very, very low.

(Yeah, when we found out you were lying about the science; it tends to make one not want to hold their arms out… and start sharing the true stats everywhere to try and save as many as we can…)

Stéphane Bancel, CEO: Moderna


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